Comments on: the KJV’s built-in dictionary? there’s no such thing http://ninetysixandten.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/collective-howls-of-derision/ a heady mix of scottish calvinism and phonological theory Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:02:47 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: cath http://ninetysixandten.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/collective-howls-of-derision/#comment-576 cath Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:05:59 +0000 http://ninetysixandten.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/collective-howls-of-derision/#comment-576 I'm reluctant to say publicly exactly how astounded I was when someone told me about KJV-Onlyism several years ago (reluctant because it would probably only add to their existing martyr complex). But yes, they really do seem to be serious. And that choice of verses from John 5 are decidedly ironic, it did strike me at the time :) I’m reluctant to say publicly exactly how astounded I was when someone told me about KJV-Onlyism several years ago (reluctant because it would probably only add to their existing martyr complex). But yes, they really do seem to be serious.

And that choice of verses from John 5 are decidedly ironic, it did strike me at the time :)

]]> By: aelianus http://ninetysixandten.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/collective-howls-of-derision/#comment-571 aelianus Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:01:35 +0000 http://ninetysixandten.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/collective-howls-of-derision/#comment-571 Just going to leave the words of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ with you. You just read this and pray. John 5:39-40 RSV ========== You search the scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness to me; yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life. Just going to leave the words of our Lord and Savior
Jesus Christ with you. You just read this and pray.

John 5:39-40 RSV
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You search the scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness to me; yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life.

]]> By: berenike http://ninetysixandten.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/collective-howls-of-derision/#comment-567 berenike Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:48:32 +0000 http://ninetysixandten.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/collective-howls-of-derision/#comment-567 good grief. I never read all this before. they're serious! 8-0 Still, one step ahead of the woman this chap I know got talking to at a bus stop in Oxford - he couldn't work out for ages what was odd about the conversation, until he worked out that she thought that the AV <i>was</i> the Bible, that is, the original version, not a translation! good grief. I never read all this before. they’re serious!

8-0

Still, one step ahead of the woman this chap I know got talking to at a bus stop in Oxford – he couldn’t work out for ages what was odd about the conversation, until he worked out that she thought that the AV was the Bible, that is, the original version, not a translation!

]]> By: Scott Rae http://ninetysixandten.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/collective-howls-of-derision/#comment-489 Scott Rae Sat, 29 Sep 2007 03:15:47 +0000 http://ninetysixandten.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/collective-howls-of-derision/#comment-489 Just going to leave the words of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ with you. You just read this and pray. John 5:39 KJV ========== Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. Just going to leave the words of our Lord and Savior
Jesus Christ with you. You just read this and pray.

John 5:39 KJV
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Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have
eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

]]> By: cath http://ninetysixandten.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/collective-howls-of-derision/#comment-410 cath Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:59:48 +0000 http://ninetysixandten.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/collective-howls-of-derision/#comment-410 I don't really have much to say about the book itself - my reaction is based on the claims which were advertised on the site. I think the point numbered [1] in the original post, in conjunction with my reply #6, covers what you're alluding to with this example. I don’t really have much to say about the book itself – my reaction is based on the claims which were advertised on the site.

I think the point numbered [1] in the original post, in conjunction with my reply #6, covers what you’re alluding to with this example.

]]> By: Jim Lang http://ninetysixandten.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/collective-howls-of-derision/#comment-407 Jim Lang Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:56:31 +0000 http://ninetysixandten.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/collective-howls-of-derision/#comment-407 I haven't read In Awe of Thy Word yet, but I do have a copy. I have been testing the "built in dictionary" to see if it works. Riplinger states that it will be defined in its first usage. I found froward in psalm 101, I don't have a clue what froward means. I look it up in my lexicons and it says crooked or perverse, etc, etc. Most of them didn't elaborate too much on the subject. Anyway, I looked up the first instance of froward and couldn't find anything in the surrounding verses to back it up(Deuteronomy 32). So I'm thinking she's out of her mind. However, Riplinger states to look at the peg words (words surrounding the difficult word) one of the pegs with froward is generation. I search generation in the chapter and in verse five we find crooked. I'm not saying it works everytime like is claimed, but I'm investigating it. We can't knock something before we try it or read it. can we? I haven’t read In Awe of Thy Word yet, but I do have a copy. I have been testing the “built in dictionary” to see if it works. Riplinger states that it will be defined in its first usage. I found froward in psalm 101, I don’t have a clue what froward means. I look it up in my lexicons and it says crooked or perverse, etc, etc. Most of them didn’t elaborate too much on the subject. Anyway, I looked up the first instance of froward and couldn’t find anything in the surrounding verses to back it up(Deuteronomy 32). So I’m thinking she’s out of her mind. However, Riplinger states to look at the peg words (words surrounding the difficult word) one of the pegs with froward is generation. I search generation in the chapter and in verse five we find crooked. I’m not saying it works everytime like is claimed, but I’m investigating it. We can’t knock something before we try it or read it. can we?

]]> By: Hannah http://ninetysixandten.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/collective-howls-of-derision/#comment-405 Hannah Mon, 27 Aug 2007 09:44:57 +0000 http://ninetysixandten.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/collective-howls-of-derision/#comment-405 I was sure you two were never going to stop! I was sure you two were never going to stop!

]]> By: Robert K. http://ninetysixandten.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/collective-howls-of-derision/#comment-70 Robert K. Fri, 09 Mar 2007 11:25:35 +0000 http://ninetysixandten.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/collective-howls-of-derision/#comment-70 Once again: think wheat and chaff. Think 'degree'. Riplinger isn't all chaff. And her faith is real. Refreshingly zealous. Stands her ground against many fools and the opinion of the world. And she really, really does expose the Alexandrian side. And she really, really does dig up some interesting things in the realm of the history of English (and other languages) translation of the Holy Sciptures. And look up her responses to James White and other critics regarding 'solid ground' and 'intellectually viable'... Once again: think wheat and chaff. Think ‘degree’. Riplinger isn’t all chaff. And her faith is real. Refreshingly zealous. Stands her ground against many fools and the opinion of the world. And she really, really does expose the Alexandrian side. And she really, really does dig up some interesting things in the realm of the history of English (and other languages) translation of the Holy Sciptures. And look up her responses to James White and other critics regarding ’solid ground’ and ‘intellectually viable’…

]]> By: cath http://ninetysixandten.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/collective-howls-of-derision/#comment-69 cath Fri, 09 Mar 2007 10:54:15 +0000 http://ninetysixandten.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/collective-howls-of-derision/#comment-69 You seem to be saying that you like this stuff even though it's rubbish, just because it's not anti-KJV. But I honestly think you could set your sights a lot higher! That's a very very low standard of acceptance for the arguments the Riplinger side is presenting - surely it would benefit everyone to recognise that nonsensical puffed up claims like these should be dismissed out of hand - then those of us who like the KJV wouldn't be burdened with apologising for them, while people who have problems with the KJV could be met on some more intellectually viable basis. Nobody should feel obliged to tolerate gibberish, when so many of the criticisms of the KJV can be countered on much more solid grounds than these. We don't need to make things up in order to defend it! (And note that I'm only saying "<i>many</i> of the criticisms of the KJV can be countered" - it would also be helpful to recognise that it really isn't perfect! 'The best we've got so far,' is a big enough claim to be going on with.) You seem to be saying that you like this stuff even though it’s rubbish, just because it’s not anti-KJV.

But I honestly think you could set your sights a lot higher! That’s a very very low standard of acceptance for the arguments the Riplinger side is presenting – surely it would benefit everyone to recognise that nonsensical puffed up claims like these should be dismissed out of hand – then those of us who like the KJV wouldn’t be burdened with apologising for them, while people who have problems with the KJV could be met on some more intellectually viable basis.

Nobody should feel obliged to tolerate gibberish, when so many of the criticisms of the KJV can be countered on much more solid grounds than these. We don’t need to make things up in order to defend it!

(And note that I’m only saying “many of the criticisms of the KJV can be countered” – it would also be helpful to recognise that it really isn’t perfect! ‘The best we’ve got so far,’ is a big enough claim to be going on with.)

]]> By: Robert K. http://ninetysixandten.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/collective-howls-of-derision/#comment-68 Robert K. Fri, 09 Mar 2007 00:50:09 +0000 http://ninetysixandten.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/collective-howls-of-derision/#comment-68 You really can't follow that? You really can’t follow that?

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